Welcome back to How to Be a Better DM.
Today, Tanner and Justin talk about the joys of 2023 and what to look forward to in 2024. The transcript is below.
We also mention today’s sponsor, Magic Mind.
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Justin (00:03.449)
Welcome back to How to be a Better DM, the official podcast of Monsters.Rent. I’m your host today, Justin Lewis, here with Tanner Wayland, my brother in arms, my compadre, my colega. How’s it going?
Tanner Weyland (00:18.222)
Such a good man. I’m so many things. I’m excited.
Justin (00:22.386)
Well, you are everything, but you’re also Tanner. And that’s exactly what we need. I’m being a little nostalgic today because today is the last podcast episode of 2023. Now I never thought we would get to 2023, right? Because you never see yourself moving forward in time. But I think today it would be ad propo, whatever that means, to take a look back.
Tanner Weyland (00:28.891)
Hahaha
Justin (00:50.253)
at 2023 and also take a look forward into 2024, maybe do some divination magic and see what the future holds for us. What do you think, Tanner?
Tanner Weyland (01:00.042)
I’m down for that. Yeah, let’s, oh, go ahead, sorry.
Justin (01:01.773)
Excellent. Well, I was gonna say, let’s start with 2023. And Tanner, if you want to kick us off.
Tanner Weyland (01:07.463)
Ciao.
Tanner Weyland (01:10.826)
I mean, yeah, just to on a personal note, it’s been, it’s been a busy year. One things have gotten busier with the podcast as we’ll talk about, but also, uh, I mean, just personally got a dog. We got a house, uh, a house at the start of the year, dog halfway through the year, good old banjo. He’s a, he’s a cutie. He probably just heard me bless his heart. Um, but yeah, it’s been a great Christmas season. Uh, Kirstie and I are doing well. Uh, otherwise, you know, just.
Things are busy, but we’re keeping up over here. How about you, Justin?
Justin (01:42.841)
Yes, things are also busy for us. We had a baby. That’s probably the biggest thing that happened to us personally this year, back in August, my wife and I had a baby. Funny story, for nine months, we thought the baby was gonna be a girl. The ultrasounds told us it was gonna be a girl. And then the baby came out as a boy. So check your ultrasounds, people. You don’t wanna surprise like that. But having a baby has been very rewarding, very tiring.
both those things.
Tanner Weyland (02:13.962)
Yeah. And I mean, I believe that that’s, that’s the thing about kids. You get a lot from them, but, uh, they request everything from you.
Justin (02:22.277)
Absolutely, absolutely. Well, specifically talking about the podcast, we’ve had actually a really good year. It’s been fun seeing the podcast grow. And one of my favorite things this year has been just in November, we had our highest download month. We had 5,000 downloads in the month, over 5,000 downloads, which is not a small thing, right? I think…
Most podcasts never get past 10 episodes, right? Just that’s how it is statistically. And you’re in the top 50% of podcasts if you get more than 100 listens on any episode within the first seven days, and we get around 200. So we’re probably in the top 70% of podcasts maybe. Obviously it is kind of an exponential curve, but it’s really cool to see the growth we’re having. And more than that, I think is
you know, having people reach out and being like, yeah, you guys are helping us, you know, DM better or helping me. I just like listening to you guys. And it’s just, it’s fun to think, you know, we did something that people like, which in this day and age is pretty, pretty rare.
Tanner Weyland (03:40.914)
Yeah, you know, I think that it’s a great thing just seeing that, you know, I don’t think of us as any kind of exceptional people. Like, obviously, we have a lot of advice on being DMs, but it’s nice to know that it’s like, hey, if we and, you know, the guests we bring on, just share some of our thoughts, you know, think a little deeper about the individual parts of being a DM, then you can do really good work. It’s kind of like a journaling in your personal life where it’s like, yeah.
If you just spend a little bit more thought deconstruct things a little bit, uh, regurgitate it in a good way, then essentially you, you learn, there’s a lot to learn from just a simple review of things. Right. And so that’s, that’s been kind of an interesting thing. And I’ve loved knowing that we’re, we’re helping people that way.
Justin (04:30.853)
Absolutely. I mean, even though we talk a lot about DMing, I would in no way, shape or form claim us to be the world’s best DMs. Well, I can’t speak for Tanner, but myself, I DMed just last night, and afterwards I was like, man, I need to get way better. But I’m sure that that’s how a lot of people feel. And honestly, that’s why how to be a better DM exists, because we want you to not feel that way instead. Finish the session being like, wow, that was so great. I’m just so happy.
Tanner Weyland (05:01.65)
Yeah, exactly. And you know, we try and change it up with the with the topics if you know, in the future, if you guys ever are like, hey, we want specific topics or types of content, like, we’ve considered, you know, reviewing
other people’s games, you know, as they DM we considered a lot of different types of things. We always try and get on guests who we think would be valuable. But if any of you have any ideas, we of course welcome that.
Justin (05:32.785)
Yeah, actually, you can go on Instagram, look up at howtobetterdm or at monsters.rent, send us a message, suggestions, or even content that we missed in an episode. You know, if you think that a particular episode needs to be fleshed out a little bit more, definitely let us know. Or if, like Tanner said, you want us to basically, you know, commentate on your session, you just have to record your session and send it to us. But…
Really over this last year, like Tanner mentioned, we had some pretty great guests. I think one of my favorites was Victor Bovine. And that’s mostly just because, you know, I kind of cut my teeth on the Forgotten Realms by listening to the Drizzt o’Urden series by R.A. Salvatore. And Victor Bovine was the voice actor, right? And so, you know, his voice for me is Drizzt o’Urden. And it was really cool to, you know, to listen to him. It was also fun, you know, hanging out with Andy from WeGeek together. And,
having like that live podcast feel, which is kind of rare for us just because our guests are mostly not in the same locale. Though I do think, you know, moving into the next year, I think it would be cool to have more and more in-person guests if we can get them.
Tanner Weyland (06:47.254)
Yeah, agreed. Like Andrew, he was great. Cause I mean, you should have seen all the technical issues we had going into that. Cause we, we weren’t onsite, you know, we, we didn’t do it at either of our places or at a studio, we went to we geek together, you know, his store set up there, just so many technical issues getting it set up. And then once it was finally done, it was just cool to actually have a chill conversation and we even thought that we had lost like the, the recording and we found it. And so like that one.
I think I’m nostalgic for it from like a trauma standpoint because it was like both you had the bitter and the sweet you know but that one was memorable for me
Justin (07:26.663)
Yeah.
Justin (07:29.817)
Agreed, agreed. Also, we want to say thank you to everyone who participated with us in the one-shots of last year. We know that they weren’t as periodic. They didn’t happen every month. But we were grateful to you for joining us and having fun with us, even amidst the technical difficulties of the one-shots. I know the last one that I did, very technically difficult.
And hopefully in the next year we can have more one-shots and more people join. Even if there are opportunities for live one-shots in person, if there’s a group of listeners here in the Utah region, we can get together and do a one-shot that way. That would be fun, I think. But again, just wanted to say thank you for everyone who participated and also for all the guest DMs we’ve had over the last couple of years.
Tanner Weyland (08:24.298)
Yeah, absolutely. It’s always fun seeing you guys, meeting you guys, and also just playing. We learn a lot every time that we do, because it’s one thing playing with a party that you’ve played with consistently. Playing with a new one always is such a learning experience. So thank you for being, I mean, our friends and our guinea pigs to some extent. So thank you.
Justin (08:48.895)
Yeah
Absolutely. Another great thing that we did this year was the guild. And the guild is sort of a kind of collaboration between the podcast and Monsters.Rent. And really it’s all the same thing, but just for your information, the guild is basically a free community that the goal is to connect people.
who are like-minded in the same space, but also give them resources and things like that, right? We have the beginning of a Dungeon Mastering course, and we have some downloadable resources available online through the guild, again, all free. And for me, the coolest thing of the guild has been, one, seeing people slowly kind of come in, right? And every new person that enters the guild adds so much to everyone who’s already there, and…
hopefully to themselves, but also seeing the collaboration between the people within the guild, seeing people talk about homebrew monsters that they’re working on or puzzles that they found. It’s just really cool to sort of sit back and see you guys, because if we could bottle up all of your knowledge and experience, I think that would be way more informational and helpful than what we can say.
And it’s frankly just kind of a treat just to be kind of on the receiving end of that.
Tanner Weyland (10:18.93)
Yeah, absolutely. That one’s been just fun seeing like it’s growing slowly because we haven’t been doing it that long. But but every time it does then you feel you know, like, like you each new person is like a measurable help to everyone else. And I love that.
Justin (10:35.013)
Yeah, yeah. It’s also growing slowly, I’d say, because I don’t know about you, Tanner, but I have no idea how to do Discord, right? Like, I don’t know technically very well. But also, I’m not like a people person, per se, so it’s kind of a stretch for me being like, yeah, welcome, let’s talk about these things. So it’s definitely a new experience.
Tanner Weyland (10:58.962)
Yeah, absolutely. So thank you for your patience with us, if you are a part of that. And if you’re not, come join, you know? Add to the milieu, as the French say, of the voices and everything. For us, I mean, probably the thing that’s made me busiest this year is, I mean, aside from the podcast in general, it’s Monsters.Rent. You guys have heard us talk about that, you know, for a hot second now. But…
Yeah, it’s just been kind of an eye opening experience where it’s like, yeah, there’s a lot more to a, uh, miniature rental business than you’d think. Uh, but it’s, it’s had a lot of, uh, a lot of ups, some downs, but, um, you know, I think for me, like, uh, a big up was just, you know, at the start, there’s always a question when you’re starting kind of like a side venture, a side project.
of like, okay, how much do we throw ourselves into it at the start? And do we do it slowly? Do we just jump in and, you know, see if we can swim? And I think we got a good experience with that with the dead wars that we geeked together through, through back in, was it May?
Justin (12:14.773)
I think it was May, April, around there.
Tanner Weyland (12:17.25)
May, April. Yeah. Because you know, we, we made and painted like, what it was like 200 minis for that. And then beyond that, we, like we went to the show, we had a booth, you know, we got a sign printed, you know, we kind of put our best foot forward. And that was kind of a an interesting experience. I really like that.
Justin (12:26.345)
200. Yep.
Justin (12:43.293)
Yeah, I think it was fun for us because it helps solidify kind of the real business aspect. When you start a business, it’s sort of like in your head until it goes out in public, right? Once you start getting people signed up and people buying things from you, then you’re like, wow, this is like a real business. And for me, that was just really fun. It was also sort of…
kind of validation, talking to a lot of people saying, yeah, this is like a really great idea. Now, obviously, people saying that and people buying whatever you have to sell, two very different things, but it was a big event for us. And I think it did move us forward, at least in maturity, business-wise, right? But another kind of highlight was when we sort of upgraded our boxes, and we’re still sort of working on this process actually,
Tanner Weyland (13:33.303)
Yeah.
Justin (13:41.001)
the inside of the boxes, but we started using these wooden boxes that were kind of custom designed. They have the Monsters.Rent logo and everything on them. Actually, if you go to our website on mobile, you can see there’s like a cover image of a video that actually displays the box really well on the homepage. But those boxes are pretty sweet. And honestly, just the box itself is like cool enough that…
someone should like want to buy it, but I mean, who knows?
Tanner Weyland (14:13.798)
Yeah, exactly. That was, it’s kind of nice having a little bit more individuality, uh, to our products, cause that’s what we hope to do. The priority obviously is just like, Hey, we want to make easily accessible and rentable minis, you know, that are affordable so that people don’t have to, you know, buy a bunch that just sit around cause they don’t want to reuse same minis all the time, but it’s also nice to, you know, make a little bit more of an individual product that way. Uh, I’ve really enjoyed, uh,
beyond that, also we’ve just gotten some really good help, like some amazing help from a few influencers. And obviously, you know, it’s more in the D&D space and the, you know, but we really like Bennett and Courtney, Bennett, you, if you don’t follow him, you should, you absolutely should. He’s at, he’s at the Ben Chewie, C-H-E-W-Y. And Courtney, she’s at the Curly.
K U R L I G I R L I cosplay. So it’s the Curly Gurly Cosplay. They’ve both been so helpful, honestly. We really loved the videos that they put out for us and kind of having that partnership set up. And if you haven’t heard of them, go check them out, because they’re great.
Uh, regardless though, we’re so grateful for them and everyone else who’s been helpful along the way, because you know, we’ve, we’ve worked with quite a few people, some people haven’t been able to keep working with us, uh, like just because of time constraints or, or other things, and we’re just so grateful for anyone who’s, you know, put any time into this and, and also to any of you who, you know, gave us a shot. And so we were truly appreciative for that.
Justin (16:02.737)
Absolutely. Uh, probably the biggest thank you that we can give from a monsters.rent is to the current users of it, uh, the people who are sticking with us regardless of, you know, how many technical hiccups we have or, or how, uh, non user friendly the website may or may not be at any given moment because, you know, it’s always in flux, um, and actually, you know, Bennett going back to that.
Uh, the video, he made us a video and you can see that video on the homepage right now, if you, if you go there, uh, it’s a pretty sweet video, uh, really well done, so definitely go to at the Ben Chewie on Instagram, tick talk and you know, give them a follow, but I think another cool thing that really for us has been just kind of a treat has been the ability to accumulate or have the ability to produce something like over a hundred
different minis, including 12 bundles of different themed minis. And seeing the different files and things has been really fun and nice. We actually signed up for the commercial license of someone on my mini factory. Right. And that’s allowed us to kind of accumulate these minis and they’re really well done. But I think moving forward, we have hopefully, you know, some other plans. We’ll tell you that in a second.
But anything else you want to talk about in terms of 2023?
Tanner Weyland (17:30.606)
Uh, mostly I, one thing that we forgot to mention with the podcast was just sponsorships really, because we’ve been, you know, one nice thing is we, we like putting out the podcast, uh, up till now though, we like, with a couple exceptions, it hasn’t really made us money, you know, which we’re happy to still do it, but it’s nice that the sponsorships allow it to be more of a long-term thing.
And like for example, Magic Mind. Honestly, we’ve been working with them recently and they’ve been so helpful and supportive and we just really appreciate that.
Justin (18:10.909)
Yeah. Uh, when they first reached out, um, and this is sort of a little bit behind the scenes, like how the sausage is made kind of deal. Obviously the podcast costs money every month for the hosting and things like that. It costs us time. And, you know, we really love it. And. We, if we do the podcast, we can’t do other things that might provide for us financially, you know, for our families and things like that. Tanner has a wife and a dog. I have a wife and a dog and a baby.
So we can’t do this all day every day just because we have jobs. When Magic Mind reached out and they’re like, yeah, we’d like to partner with you. Honestly, it sounded a little bit too good to be true. So I was like, is this real? Just because I’ve had people, on Instagram you always get those people are like, yeah, you’re woman of the year. And I’m like, I’m a man. So they were like, yeah, we’d like to work with you guys. And
through the whole process, they’ve just been so nice. And to me, it shows me really what’s behind their product, which is Magic Mind, it’s a productivity shot, but it shows kind of the culture of their company. With our first sort of promotion, it was kind of a little creative, I was a little nervous of how they’d receive it, and we sent it over, and our contact over there was just like, yeah, this is so great, she was just so praising of us, that to me, again, it just showed
if they are that excited and that emotional and energetic about, you know, the promotion, then that’s obviously what’s behind the productivity shot, Magic Mind, which is, you know, a subscription for it’s supposed to replace your coffee or your tea in the morning, whatever you use to kind of get your energy. And it’s all natural. And it has lots of, I actually have the list up, lots of really great nutrients in there.
things that honestly I don’t completely understand because frankly I’m kind of not intelligent, but there’s matcha, there’s bacopa manieri, which sounds really cool and it also sounds kind of like a spell. There’s ashwagandha, rhodiola rosea, which again sounds like a spell, lion’s mane mushroom, cordyceps mushroom. So lots of things that
Tanner Weyland (20:30.35)
Oh, and what’s this? What’s this right here? It says Vita men. Huh, crazy.
Justin (20:34.833)
Yeah, yeah, I didn’t, I don’t, like, Vita means life, so maybe it’s like living men or something? I don’t know, I don’t know. But, yeah, but, you know, when I took it, it was a very interesting experience, because I’m honestly, I don’t drink coffee, I don’t drink tea, so I’ve never really relied on sort of energy drinks, I don’t drink energy drinks. And I definitely felt it, you know, throughout the day, I felt the difference.
Tanner Weyland (20:41.995)
That must be… Vitamins? Yeah, weird. Huh. Crazy.
Justin (21:05.665)
And what it is, it’s supposed to help you with your focus without the crash, right? We all know the haste spell. Once it’s done, you know, you’re stunned for like one or two rounds with the haste spell. You don’t get that with the productivity shot Magic Mind. And actually, they’re doing a small campaign for the month of January. So I know this is the Thursday before January, but we’re giving you a little heads up. You can go to magicmind.com slash JanBetterDM.
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you’re subscribing for two months, but an extra month, right? Math. Magicmind.com slash Jan BetterDM with code betterdm20 at checkout, or you can find these at any sprouts, farmers, markets near you. And moving into 24, our goal is to get more subscriptions, sorry, more sponsorships like Magicmind and continue our sponsorship with Magicmind. So that’s definitely big on our.
Radar.
Tanner Weyland (22:33.271)
Yeah.
Yeah, because we just want to be able to keep doing this podcast for you guys. And so thank you for your support. And, uh, let’s talk about 2024 Justin. Uh, first off for the podcast, I mean, honestly, we really want to, uh, have more creative episode, like ideas, you know, just like where, like we kind of rethink the concept of instead of just like picking a topic, uh, from D and D. We instead, you know, maybe we do.
Justin (22:45.109)
Absolutely.
Tanner Weyland (23:04.32)
a little bit more interesting, like maybe it’s themed or it’s a comparison list or you know, there’s a lot of different things that we need to do. And so we’re excited to try those out. We’re definitely going to get more guests. I mean, that you know that we were always trying to get new guests. And so, Justin, what have you been thinking about with as far as like the types?
Justin (23:25.617)
Yeah, so actually with regards to guests, I’ve been thinking, I’ve been watching a lot of YouTube videos of, you know, from like insider or the breakdown where, you know, they take an expert and then they have the expert sort of rate or review movie clips that involve their expertise and sort of tell you, yeah, this part isn’t realistic or this is realistic. For example, you know, a wildlife expert watches movies with like…
lions or they watch part of free willy and they’re like, yeah, this is this is why that is and stuff like that. I thought that it might be useful and interesting to have sort of the same thing but as it regards to D&D so maybe we might have someone who is a blacksmith and we have them come on and we ask them. Yeah, so if someone wanted to buy something, how long would it take, you know, ask some real questions that would sort of inform how you roleplay a blacksmith or
You know, up in Salt Lake, I know that there is a armored combat team. Literally it’s a martial arts, mixed martial arts sport where people dress up in full suits of armor and they like punch each other and kick each other and hit each other with kind of dulled swords. You know, we might have someone like that come in and kind of walk us through like, yeah, if someone was putting on armor, you know, da da, or if you’re describing combat, what are some ways that realistically this could kind of play out? Um, I thought that might be more interesting.
than just having everyday guests. I also thought it would be good and useful for us to try and start to reach out to some more high profile guests. You never know if you might get them, but if we do get them, that would be just so much more fun.
Tanner Weyland (24:53.594)
Yeah.
Tanner Weyland (25:08.03)
Yeah, absolutely. You know, I think something to be said for the profession, style of guest is that you know, as a DM, there’s a lot of performance, like especially description that we have to do. And if we don’t know anything about it, you know, then the for example, pickpocketing, how many of us actually know how that works?
or leatherworking or blacksmithing, right? We’ve seen like little images or little clips on, you know, maybe a knight’s tale is the most we’ve ever seen of anything relating to blacksmithing. And all we’re like is like, oh man Heath Ledger is really cool. And we don’t actually know anything about blacksmithing. And yet we’re supposed to describe the situation when our party goes into the local blacksmith dwarf.
Justin (25:52.959)
Yeah.
Tanner Weyland (26:00.63)
looking for a whole new set of armor, right? And so, you know, every little bit helps. Obviously, you know, email us or reach out at Monsters Rent on Instagram. Let us know if you think this is a good idea. We think it is, but we’re very excited for that. And then, you know, we’re hoping to play more. It’s obviously, like we said, it’s kind of been a crazy busy year. So we haven’t had as much time to play either one shots or just, you know.
Individually as much and so we’re hoping to have more opportunity for that and at the very least we have planned to You know have a live play campaign in this next couple months So we’re pretty stoked about that and we don’t have all the info for you, but You know we It’s going to take place in Well, it’s gonna start in hell, which is which is nice. You know, that’s always a nice opener
Palette Cleanser for a campaign. Um, but anyway, I’ve been talking too much. Just, are you excited for the new live play?
Justin (27:07.921)
Oh my gosh, I can’t tell you how excited I am. So it’s gonna be myself, Tanner, and Kayden, our partner from Monsters.Rent as the players, and the Dungeon Master is going to be Jake Packham from the Dungeon Mastermind podcast. He’s a friend of ours, and frankly he’s a really talented DM, right? I’ve played with him once or twice before, and he’s just, I don’t know, he’s really good.
So I’m super excited and like Tanner said, basically the story, the campaign’s gonna start up with all of us, Tanner, Caden and myself, all of our characters, having been sent to the nine hells as some sort of punishment or some other means and we’re basically starting in hell with nothing. So if you wanna see other people suffer, definitely tune in, we’ll let you know when it’s going to be released and actually,
If you want to kind of get the scoop, the latest information on when it’s going to be released, sign up for the guild because that’s where we’re going to do a lot of our announcements. All you got to do is go to monsters.rent slash subscribe slash the guild or sorry slash the dash guild. Again, it is 100% free and then you get access to our, you know, our Discord server and everything and you become part of the community. But going to be super fun. It’s going to be set in the homebrew world of Kalignos.
which is something Jake has been working on. Going back a little bit to having more guests on the podcast, I just thought of this. I think it even goes beyond just blacksmithing, things like that, but like we could have experts on marshes or forest life or caves, places where adventurers would go to kind of help inform what kind of conditions are gonna be there, how would you travel, things like that. And then, you know.
Tanner Weyland (28:56.876)
Yeah.
Justin (29:00.165)
As far as more creative episodes go, if you want an example of this, next week’s episode is a little bit more creative. It’s going to be talking about the Shadowfell in a very interesting way, hopefully. Hopefully it’s not off-putting, but join us next week for that episode for more of a creative show. And as far as the one-shots go, not just playing more one-shots, but having less technical difficulties and also
possibly opening up the opportunity to, you know, you the listener to host the one shot as the DM. You know, we don’t always have to be the hosts. So if you’re interested in that, definitely reach out to us. But speaking of the guild, this next year, I think the guild is gonna be sort of a big focus for us because it’s not just the community, but it’s also the downloadable resources and also the Dungeon Mastering course.
Tanner Weyland (29:40.311)
Yep.
Justin (29:55.521)
And we’ve started on that. And I think this next year, a focus of ours should be to finish that course because, you know, we all want to become better DMS and if we have resources like that available, it just makes it so much easier.
Tanner Weyland (30:11.39)
Yeah, absolutely. And, and I think, you know, we, we just hope to see a lot more of you in there so that when we have questions or when, uh, our fellow DMS have questions, that there’s going to be just a readily available source. Um, but, uh, yeah, it was so basically a lot happening with the podcast. I’m very excited about that. Um, the main thing that, uh, that we have a lot of.
you know, of hope for, we’re, you know, we’re crossing our fingers. We’ll be able to get it all done, but monsters.rent. We have a lot of plans for that. Uh, beyond like, we’re planning on being involved with the dead wars again this next year. Which of course will be awesome, especially since we’ll be, you know, we won’t be on our back foot as much this year, we’ll have a bit more time to prepare, which we’re excited for. And then, you know, we’re also hoping to get a booth at FanX.
If you’re not from Utah, maybe you don’t know what this is, but it’s a really big comic con esque, you know event Where there’s you know celebrities a lot of gaming? D&D like just a lot going on there and it’s for fans of pretty much any genre but certainly the fantasy D&D genre and Yeah, we’re hoping to get a booth there and we’ll have more info for you going forward
Justin (31:34.137)
Yeah, I’ve actually already reached out to them to see if we could host a panel talking about being a dungeon master. I might have to follow up with them. But I think another focus of ours for Monsters.Rent is creating the ability on the website to sell the minis just straight up. Early on in Monsters.Rent, we had some confusion with people who signed up for subscriptions to rent the minis.
And then they reached out to us and they’re like, hey, why am I being charged? I bought these minis. And so we’re thinking that it might be a good idea, or at least, you know, I, I definitely, I think that we should put forth this opportunity for people to just buy the minis, uh, it would provide obviously some cash for us and a simple, simplified product model. Uh, and also it might tell us which people want more, whether they want to rent more or just buy more. Um, and.
you know, if both options are available, I don’t see why that would be a bad thing. I think another thing we’re also going to look to do is more merch, you know, t-shirts and t-shirt designs. I think we talked about in the past, creating specific designs around each class, including a DM shirt. When we were at Dead Wars last year, we were selling shirts that were specific to the event. It said World Record Beholder, kind of a play on words there.
Tanner Weyland (32:59.463)
Mm-hmm.
Justin (33:00.489)
And that sold really well. And I think having things like that for people to buy would be a good idea for us as well, because again, it would kind of be an influx of cash, pretty hands off. And, you know, we’re pretty clever guys, so I think we can come up with pretty fun t-shirt ideas.
Tanner Weyland (33:19.738)
Exactly. And so, yeah, we’re hoping just to, you know, get a lot more things that we’ve been talking about for a sec rolling on that with monsters.rent. One thing specifically that if any of you have any suggestions, like Justin said, we were always looking for feedback. We’re also always looking for collaborators and whether that’s
Tanner Weyland (33:49.672)
right whether that’s you know graphic designers or 3d modelers or whatever right we’re always looking to partner with those people and give them a chance to make money while we do as well and also just improve the product in general so yeah it definitely reach out I guess you know it’s easy to say that or see that we’ve got a lot planned a lot on our plate
And we’re really hoping that you’ll be with us on this journey and we’re so excited.
Justin (34:24.561)
Absolutely. I mean, obviously we have a lot going on this year. We’re going to work on the website, make sure that it’s very user-friendly. We’re going to take better photos of the minis and things like that, collaborate with more influencers. I think the biggest thing we’re going to focus on, so our core values here are, and Intentor, you might have to help me with this, but number one, community, and number two, wow, right? We want…
Tanner Weyland (34:48.982)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Justin (34:52.537)
every interaction anyone has with monster.rent, how to be better DM the guild, just to be blown away by their experience. And we want to build the community, our community, the D&D community at large, and obviously the world. So with those two core values, our biggest focus will be, you know, you, the listener, who may or may not be also our customer or user. We want you to be the best dungeon master the world has ever seen. Because statistically speaking,
someone out there is that Dungeon Master and why couldn’t it be you? So our goal is to help you reach your full potential. Gotta catch them all.
Tanner Weyland (35:34.694)
Um, we’re, we’re a Pokemon podcast now. Uh, yeah, that’s, sorry, D and D got a new catchphrase. Uh, we’re just, we’re just honestly want to give you the most value, uh, that you can get because, you know, being a DM while it’s so rewarding, it’s also takes a lot. And there’s always room for improvement. And so we, we always hope that you’re not.
Justin (35:39.209)
Yep. Sorry, D&D.
Justin (35:44.9)
Yes.
Tanner Weyland (36:02.326)
depressed by that or overwhelmed, but rather that you feel empowered by, you know, by the podcast we offer, you know, the minis or anything else, like the community with the guild. We just want you to feel like, like you and any friends that you have who are kind of like, oh man, DM, DMing kind of takes it out of me. It shouldn’t feel that way, right? It’s supposed to be fun first and foremost, and it’s supposed to be something that doesn’t stress you out.
And, and I think we’ve done well at like trying to help change the mindset about that is like, Hey, it’s not all about knowing all the stat blocks from, from heart and it’s not all about, uh, about having like spent a hundred hours of prep for each session. It’s more about like, Hey, how do you approach different aspects of the game? Um, in a more natural fluid and less stressful way. So.
We hope to be able to do that a lot more going forward.
Justin (37:04.689)
Yeah. A big thank you to you, all your support. If you weren’t listening, this would be a lot less fun. We’d probably still do it, but I don’t know how long we would do it. So thank you for keeping us going just by being here, listening to us and maybe laughing at one or two of my jokes. You know, here’s to a very good 2023 and hopefully for all of us and even better 2024. We’ll see you next week.
Tanner Weyland (37:14.077)
Hahaha
Justin (37:34.193)
In the new year, let’s go ahead and roll initiative.
Transcript
Welcome back to How to be a Better DM, the
official podcast of Monsters.Rent.
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:I'm your host today, Justin Lewis, here
with Tanner Wayland, my brother in arms,
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:my compadre, my colega.
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:How's it going?
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:Such a good man.
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:I'm so many things.
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:I'm excited.
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:Well, you are everything, but you're also
Tanner.
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:And that's exactly what we need.
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:I'm being a little nostalgic today because
s the last podcast episode of:
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:never thought we would get to:right?
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:Because you never see yourself moving
forward in time.
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:But I think today it would be ad propo,
whatever that means, to take a look back.
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:at::
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:see what the future holds for us.
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:What do you think, Tanner?
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:I'm down for that.
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:And Tanner, if you want to kick us off.
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:I mean, yeah, just to on a personal note,
it's been, it's been a busy year.
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:One things have gotten busier with the
podcast as we'll talk about, but also, uh,
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:I mean, just personally got a dog.
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:We got a house, uh, a house at the start
of the year, dog halfway through the year,
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:good old banjo.
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:He's a, he's a cutie.
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:He probably just heard me bless his heart.
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:Um, but yeah, it's been a great Christmas
season.
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:Uh, Kirstie and I are doing well.
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here.
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:How about you, Justin?
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:Yes, things are also busy for us.
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:We had a baby.
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happened to us personally this year, back
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:Funny story, for nine months, we thought
the baby was gonna be a girl.
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girl.
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very tiring.
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the thing about kids.
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request everything from you.
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podcast, we've had actually a really good
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has been just in November, we had our
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5,000 downloads, which is not a small
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right?
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you get more than 100 listens on any
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we get around 200.
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podcasts maybe.
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curve, but it's really cool to see the
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being like, yeah, you guys are helping us,
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know, we did something that people like,
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pretty rare.
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thing just seeing that, you know, I don't
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people.
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on being DMs, but it's nice to know that
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guests we bring on, just share some of our
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about the individual parts of being a DM,
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personal life where it's like, yeah.
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thought deconstruct things a little bit,
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essentially you, you learn, there's a lot
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things.
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interesting thing.
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helping people that way.
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DMing, I would in no way, shape or form
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myself, I DMed just last night, and
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way better.
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people feel.
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better DM exists, because we want you to
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was so great.
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the with the topics if you know, in the
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want specific topics or types of content,
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reviewing
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we considered a lot of different types of
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think would be valuable.
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course welcome that.
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look up at howtobetterdm or at
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suggestions, or even content that we
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episode needs to be fleshed out a little
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basically, you know, commentate on your
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session and send it to us.
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mentioned, we had some pretty great
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Bovine.
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I kind of cut my teeth on the Forgotten
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series by R.A.
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right?
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Drizzt o'Urden.
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listen to him.
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with Andy from WeGeek together.
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is kind of rare for us just because our
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the next year, I think it would be cool to
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can get them.
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technical issues we had going into that.
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we didn't do it at either of our places or
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you know, his store set up there, just so
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just cool to actually have a chill
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had lost like the, the recording and we
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trauma standpoint because it was like both
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but that one was memorable for me
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who participated with us in the one-shots
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and having fun with us, even amidst the
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technically difficult.
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more one-shots and more people join.
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one-shots in person, if there's a group of
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get together and do a one-shot that way.
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for everyone who participated and also for
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couple of years.
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you guys, and also just playing.
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because it's one thing playing with a
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consistently.
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learning experience.
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friends and our guinea pigs to some
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was the guild.
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collaboration between the podcast and
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just for your information, the guild is
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is to connect people.
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also give them resources and things like
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Mastering course, and we have some
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through the guild, again, all free.
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has been, one, seeing people slowly kind
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adds so much to everyone who's already
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the collaboration between the people
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homebrew monsters that they're working on
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and see you guys, because if we could
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experience, I think that would be way more
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say.
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to be kind of on the receiving end of
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growing slowly because we haven't been
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you know, like, like you each new person
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else.
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I don't know about you, Tanner, but I have
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per se, so it's kind of a stretch for me
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about these things.
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you are a part of that.
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the voices and everything.
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made me busiest this year is, I mean,
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you know, for a hot second now.
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opening experience where it's like, yeah,
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rental business than you'd think.
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of ups, some downs, but, um, you know, I
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you know, at the start, there's always a
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a side venture, a side project.
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ourselves into it at the start?
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we can swim?
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that with the dead wars that we geeked
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May?
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like, what it was like 200 minis for that.
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the show, we had a booth, you know, we got
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our best foot forward.
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experience.
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helps solidify kind of the real business
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like in your head until it goes out in
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and people buying things from you, then
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people saying, yeah, this is like a really
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people buying whatever you have to sell,
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big event for us.
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least in maturity, business-wise, right?
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actually,
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everything on them.
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mobile, you can see there's like a cover
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the box really well on the homepage.
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cool enough that...
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we want to make easily accessible and
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affordable so that people don't have to,
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cause they don't want to reuse same minis
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know, make a little bit more of an
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really good help, like some amazing help
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D&D space and the, you know, but we really
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if you don't follow him, you should, you
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C-H-E-W-Y.
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them out, because they're great.
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for them and everyone else who's been
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we've, we've worked with quite a few
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keep working with us, uh, like just
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things, and we're just so grateful for
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this and, and also to any of you who, you
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can give from a monsters.rent is to the
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are sticking with us regardless of, you
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or, or how, uh, non user friendly the
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moment because, you know, it's always in
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going back to that.
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can see that video on the homepage right
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pretty sweet video, uh, really well done,
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Instagram, tick talk and you know, give
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different themed minis.
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has been really fun and nice.
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license of someone on my mini factory.
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accumulate these minis and they're really
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in terms of:
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mention with the podcast was just
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you know, one nice thing is we, we like
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though, we like, with a couple exceptions,
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which we're happy to still do it, but it's
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more of a long-term thing.
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recently and they've been so helpful and
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this is sort of a little bit behind the
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other things that might provide for us
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because we have jobs.
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like, yeah, we'd like to partner with you.
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to be true.
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you always get those people are like,
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been so nice.
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behind their product, which is Magic Mind,
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kind of the culture of their company.
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kind of a little creative, I was a little
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sent it over, and our contact over there
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was just so praising of us, that to me,
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emotional and energetic about, you know,
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what's behind the productivity shot, Magic
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for it's supposed to replace your coffee
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use to kind of get your energy.
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list up, lots of really great nutrients in
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understand because frankly I'm kind of not
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bacopa manieri, which sounds really cool
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:There's ashwagandha, rhodiola rosea, which
again sounds like a spell, lion's mane
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so maybe it's like living men or
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it was a very interesting experience,
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coffee, I don't drink tea, so I've never
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don't drink energy drinks.
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throughout the day, I felt the difference.
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with your focus without the crash, right?
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for like one or two rounds with the haste
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shot Magic Mind.
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:And actually, they're doing a small
campaign for the month of January.
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:So I know this is the Thursday before
January, but we're giving you a little
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:You can go to magicmind.com slash
JanBetterDM.
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:again, magicmind.com slash janbetterdm,
and then use the code BETTERDM20, and you
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three months.
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:And that's a really awesome offer because
it's an extra 20% off, which gets you to
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deal right now.
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subscribe for three months, you get one
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:So essentially you're getting
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:you're subscribing for two months, but an
extra month, right?
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:Magicmind.com slash Jan BetterDM with code
betterdm20 at checkout, or you can find
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near you.
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:And moving into 24, our goal is to get
more subscriptions, sorry, more
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:sponsorships like Magicmind and continue
our sponsorship with Magicmind.
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keep doing this podcast for you guys.
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honestly, we really want to, uh, have more
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just like where, like we kind of rethink
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picking a topic, uh, from D and D.
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it's themed or it's a comparison list or
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things that we need to do.
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trying to get new guests.
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thinking about with as far as like the
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thinking, I've been watching a lot of
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insider or the breakdown where, you know,
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expert sort of rate or review movie clips
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tell you, yeah, this part isn't realistic
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watches movies with like...
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they're like, yeah, this is this is why
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interesting to have sort of the same thing
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:but as it regards to D&D so maybe we might
have someone who is a blacksmith and we
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something, how long would it take, you
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sort of inform how you roleplay a
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there is a armored combat team.
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martial arts sport where people dress up
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each other and kick each other and hit
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come in and kind of walk us through like,
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know, da da, or if you're describing
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realistically this could kind of play out?
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interesting.
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for us to try and start to reach out to
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:You never know if you might get them, but
if we do get them, that would be just so
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the profession, style of guest is that you
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performance, like especially description
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you know, then the for example,
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know how that works?
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clips on, you know, maybe a knight's tale
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relating to blacksmithing.
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Ledger is really cool.
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blacksmithing.
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situation when our party goes into the
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right?
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at Monsters Rent on Instagram.
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idea.
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:We think it is, but we're very excited for
that.
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more.
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been a crazy busy year.
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either one shots or just, you know.
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to have more opportunity for that and at
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have a live play campaign in this next
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that and we don't have all the info for
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place in Well, it's gonna start in hell,
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much.
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play?
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:Oh my gosh, I can't tell you how excited I
am.
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:So it's gonna be myself, Tanner, and
Kayden, our partner from Monsters.Rent as
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going to be Jake Packham from the Dungeon
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really talented DM, right?
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and he's just, I don't know, he's really
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basically the story, the campaign's gonna
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myself, all of our characters, having been
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punishment or some other means and we're
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definitely tune in, we'll let you know
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actually,
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latest information on when it's going to
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:be released, sign up for the guild because
that's where we're going to do a lot of
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:All you got to do is go to monsters.rent
slash subscribe slash the guild or sorry
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:Again, it is 100% free and then you get
access to our, you know, our Discord
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of the community.
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of Kalignos.
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on.
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guests on the podcast, I just thought of
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blacksmithing, things like that, but like
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life or caves, places where adventurers
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of conditions are gonna be there, how
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you want an example of this, next week's
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Shadowfell in a very interesting way,
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us next week for that episode for more of
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playing more one-shots, but having less
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you know, you the listener to host the one
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definitely reach out to us.
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I think the guild is gonna be sort of a
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community, but it's also the downloadable
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course.
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ours should be to finish that course
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better DMS and if we have resources like
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easier.
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hope to see a lot more of you in there so
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our fellow DMS have questions, that
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available source.
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lot happening with the podcast.
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a lot of.
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we're crossing our fingers.
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monsters.rent.
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involved with the dead wars again this
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especially since we'll be, you know, we
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year, we'll have a bit more time to
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get a booth at FanX.
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know what this is, but it's a really big
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there's you know celebrities a lot of
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it's for fans of pretty much any genre but
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we're hoping to get a booth there and
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them to see if we could host a panel
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Monsters.Rent is creating the ability on
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straight up.
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confusion with people who signed up for
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they're like, hey, why am I being charged?
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good idea, or at least, you know, I, I
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forth this opportunity for people to just
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obviously some cash for us and a simple,
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want more, whether they want to rent more
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don't see why that would be a bad thing.
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look to do is more merch, you know,
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creating specific designs around each
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were selling shirts that were specific to
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play on words there.
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people to buy would be a good idea for us
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be an influx of cash, pretty hands off.
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so I think we can come up with pretty fun
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know, get a lot more things that we've
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that with monsters.rent.
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:One thing specifically that if any of you
have any suggestions, like Justin said, we
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collaborators and whether that's
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designers or 3d modelers or whatever right
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people and give them a chance to make
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improve the product in general so yeah it
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easy to say that or see that we've got a
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with us on this journey and we're so
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this year.
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sure that it's very user-friendly.
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minis and things like that, collaborate
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:I think the biggest thing we're going to
focus on, so our core values here are, and
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this, but number one, community, and
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:every interaction anyone has with
monster.rent, how to be better DM the
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experience.
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community, the D&D community at large, and
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focus will be, you know, you, the
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customer or user.
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the world has ever seen.
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and why couldn't it be you?
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potential.
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:Gotta catch them all.
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:Um, we're, we're a Pokemon podcast now.
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catchphrase.
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:Uh, we're just, we're just honestly want
to give you the most value, uh, that you
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while it's so rewarding, it's also takes a
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rather that you feel empowered by, you
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the minis or anything else, like the
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and any friends that you have who are kind
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it out of me.
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foremost, and it's supposed to be
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trying to help change the mindset about
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knowing all the stat blocks from, from
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having like spent a hundred hours of prep
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approach different aspects of the game?
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stressful way.
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going forward.
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:A big thank you to you, all your support.
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:If you weren't listening, this would be a
lot less fun.
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:We'd probably still do it, but I don't
know how long we would do it.
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:So thank you for keeping us going just by
being here, listening to us and maybe
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:u know, here's to a very good:hopefully for all of us and even better
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:In the new year, let's go ahead and roll
initiative.